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Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 12/20/2009, 263d 15h 19m ago (link) (top)


well hello!!!....

I noticed Rentt's wonderful thread and decided to make my own of course it isnt as extensive but it does give people an idea of the gear that i strive for when im going for loot. Like Rentt i also created a wowhead character to customize the gear and this is for what i can tell is BiS for the time being...

using Shdadows edge or Bryntroll:
http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=19004220

using LK weapon on 25man normal:
http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=20784093


The gear changes for heroic because of the significant jump on ilvl over heroic ToGC.

http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=20733629

There are some items in the heroic set that are completely swappable because they have the similar stat value
everything is in comparison to the bis set on the wowhead link:
[Sindragosa's Cruel Claw] + [Polar Bear Claw Bracers]


Updated: 2-10-2010 *added upgrade list on second post

[ Edited by Slimjim 188d 21h ago ]



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set

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posted 1/6/2010, 246d 17h 43m ago (link) (top)


Decided to delete this section and add in a "Largest Upgrade List" seeing as my gear changes and 1 pc may be higher on the totem pole of the upgrade list... although some may find it irrelevant I feel that is important to set priority of what you want over something else...

So... my current gear:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ner%27zhul&cn=Slimjim

List of Upgrades:

[Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers] +42 dps or [Frostbitten Fur Boots] +44 dps
[Astrylian's Sutured Cinch] +70 dps or [Coldwraith Links] +57 dps
[Fleshrending Gauntlets] +26 dps
[Tiny Abomination in a Jar] +80 dps

[Sanctified Lightsworn Legplates] +50dps
[Sanctified Lightsworn Battleplate] +100dps
[Sanctified Lightsworn Shoulderplates] +80dps

I am also going to move my weapon upgrade choices to here in this location with the "dps" upgrade amount
[Shadowmourne] +1600 ~approx.
[Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General] +300
[Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand] +150
[Bloodfall] -- current --
[Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter] -50
[Warmace of Menethil] -150
[Cryptmaker] -150
[Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General] -150
[Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand] -200
[Shadow's Edge] -250
[Wrathful Gladiator's Claymore]
[Hersir's Greatspear]
[Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter]

[ Edited by Slimjim 72d 12h ago ]



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set

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posted 1/11/2010, 241d 21h 44m ago (link) (top)


Reviewed the updated deathbringer's will and it is still less dps.

The reason being is the base Armor Penetration rating on it... even though its 157 or whatever its still just armor pen and has very little affect on the dps abilities of a ret paladin.

armor penetration only affects white melee hits, divine storm, and crusader strike. Those account for 30-35% of all of our damage.

Seals, consecration, and Judgments are entirely spell based and ignore armor anyway. Which is about 65-70% of all damage.

Edit: isil is thinking ... WHO THE FUCK CARES... well i do and i think its important for other people to understand where my gear stats should lie.

[ Edited by Slimjim 241d 21h ago ]



Isilmedae
Rogue

Isilmedae

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set

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posted 1/11/2010, 241d 19h 35m ago (link) (top)


Today is the first time I am looking at this thread of yours and tbh, WHO THE FUCK CARES?

LOL
When the going gets tough, run away!!!



Robeh
Warrior

Robeh

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set

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posted 1/11/2010, 241d 19h 29m ago (link) (top)


Pretty sure he's joking. Be nice isi.



Isilmedae
Rogue

Isilmedae

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set

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posted 1/11/2010, 241d 18h 56m ago (link) (top)


I R NOT NICE

Plus everyone knows that armor pen does nothing for ret pallies.
When the going gets tough, run away!!!

[ Edited by Isilmedae 241d 18h ago ]



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set

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posted 1/12/2010, 241d 13m ago (link) (top)


Isilmedae said:
Today is the first time I am looking at this thread of yours and tbh, WHO THE FUCK CARES?

LOL


LOL

and technically its not "nothing" but its also not great and neither is haste... but in comparison haste is only slightly better than armor pen. Which is kinda why im bummed out with DPS boots... seeing as there is no Str + haste boots except off algalon 25man, but their ilvl is way too low so i have to go with something that benefits me.. expertise or hit rating... and if i cannot get expertise or hit rating then i will have to fall back onto armor pen.



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 1/25/2010, 227d 14h 25m ago (link) (top)


Updated 1-25-2010



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 2/4/2010, 218d 7h 15m ago (link) (top)


Updated bis set for normal and heroic....

so much leather gear im dissapointed



Isilmedae
Rogue

Isilmedae

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 2/4/2010, 217d 16h 58m ago (link) (top)


You stay the fuck away from my leather and my TAJ!!!
When the going gets tough, run away!!!



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 2/4/2010, 217d 16h 40m ago (link) (top)


Isilmedae said:
You stay the fuck away from my leather and my TAJ!!!


Dont hate the player hate the game



Paladin

Akashin

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 2/4/2010, 217d 14h 35m ago (link) (top)


Slim,

i was wondering when you would realize that the leather boots and exhalted ring are huge upgrades for you.

Aka

Note: I mistankingly traded out the exhalted agility ring for the strength ring (I later realized it was a downgrade and will be trading it back for the agility one)

another note: The agility expertise ring is on par with the strength expertise ring and has less loot contention.

[ Edited by Akashin 217d 14h ago ]



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 2/4/2010, 217d 14h 20m ago (link) (top)


Akashin said:
Slim,

i was wondering when you would realize that the leather boots and exhalted ring are huge upgrades for you.

Aka

Note: I mistankingly traded out the exhalted agility ring for the strength ring (I later realized it was a downgrade and will be trading it back for the agility one)

another note: The agility expertise ring is on par with the strength expertise ring and has less loot contention.


true the agi + expertise ring would just as good as the skeleton ring... and the 264 footpads are only 30dps better than the 258 greaves of saronite citadel... at the time i was willing to sacrifice the 30 dps for plate boots since i already had the boots versus getting 5 primordial saronite for the leather boots...

and the 30 dps difference is on the scale of 10k dps so its approx .3% difference. I didnt get the exalted ring for a long time cuz i was still using it for tanking and not dps... i was hoping to get the ring to drop from gunship from 10man icc since that is a huge tanking upgrade... yet it hasnt dropped... i grabbed the agi ring after reading about the data on ej forums... seeing as its a 20dps difference again minimal but in this case its a simple easy choice. If longer down the line and i have lots of primordial saronite im going to get the boots.

[ Edited by Slimjim 217d 14h ago ]



Paladin

Akashin

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 2/5/2010, 217d 6h 7m ago (link) (top)


Slim,

Run your profile through the RAWR modeling tool. I agree that the boots may not be as significant an upgrade for you since you had the heroic plate boots but the ring is a very big upgrade. I've been using RAWR to maximize my gear and your going to see the difference.

Run the tool on yourself and compare it to my stats.

Aka



Slimjim
Paladin

Slimjim

 
<Lemmings>
Ner'zhul (US)

Re: Ret paladin set Update: added Heroic as well

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posted 2/5/2010, 216d 23h 57m ago (link) (top)


Ak,

So i ran it through rawr again and the difference between skeleton lords circle versus seal of many mouths is:

435.78 vs 444.75 again this is a whole 8 dps difference on a scale of 10k dps... agreed that if seal of many mouths drops again ill be going for that especially if there is less contention for it...

this is something i need to discuss with isil, myv, and kiuzo if the ring is worth it for them.

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